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		<title>By: BB-BLOG &#187; Cheap Shots and Classy Moves</title>
		<link>http://blog.secwb.com/2008/03/19/shut-up-and-play/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>BB-BLOG &#187; Cheap Shots and Classy Moves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has been made of my recent opinion piece “Shut Up and Play”. I have been labeled everything from a hack to things that cannot be reprinted here, and the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] has been made of my recent opinion piece “Shut Up and Play”. I have been labeled everything from a hack to things that cannot be reprinted here, and the [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: LeAnne</title>
		<link>http://blog.secwb.com/2008/03/19/shut-up-and-play/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>LeAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vvegas, you pointed out my quote "back in the day" and said that summed it up. I disagree with you wholeheartedly. Just because the game is faster-paced and the players overall more athletic than "back in the day" does not mean these attributes rise exponentially to the detriment of the finer points of the game, like decency and sportsmanship. Repeat after me: Good sportsmanship does not go out of style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vvegas, you pointed out my quote &#8220;back in the day&#8221; and said that summed it up. I disagree with you wholeheartedly. Just because the game is faster-paced and the players overall more athletic than &#8220;back in the day&#8221; does not mean these attributes rise exponentially to the detriment of the finer points of the game, like decency and sportsmanship. Repeat after me: Good sportsmanship does not go out of style.</p>
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		<title>By: neurohoodlum</title>
		<link>http://blog.secwb.com/2008/03/19/shut-up-and-play/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>neurohoodlum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.secwb.com/2008/03/19/shut-up-and-play/#comment-33</guid>
		<description>I didn't appreciate Bobbitt's attitude during the Rutgers' game either.  I do not, however, think that this type of attitude is unique to the Lady Vols.  Erica White (LSU) demonstrates one of the most in-your-face attitudes in the SEC.  Keke Carrier was also excessively demonstrative before she was deemed academically ineligible.  The Florida Gators had a young lady on last year's team who acted like a bully (her name escapes me).  Furthermore, the SEC isn't the only conference full of attitude.  North Carolina's Erlana Larkins challenges every foul and every traveling violation called against her.  She was awarded a technical in one of UNC's regular-season games this year due to her profanity directed toward the referees.  North Carolina players have been displaying bad attitudes for a few years now.  Why doesn't Coach Sylvia Hatchell discipline her players for their attitudes?  Abby Waner displays such an arrogant attitude that I'm surprised that she's held in the favorable light that she is.  She was particularly annoying last year, and the only reason she isn't as visibly haughty this year is because Duke doesn't have the powerhouse team it was thought to have last year.  What about Plumley of Oklahoma?  Hardeman and Cordero of Oklahoma State?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t appreciate Bobbitt&#8217;s attitude during the Rutgers&#8217; game either.  I do not, however, think that this type of attitude is unique to the Lady Vols.  Erica White (LSU) demonstrates one of the most in-your-face attitudes in the SEC.  Keke Carrier was also excessively demonstrative before she was deemed academically ineligible.  The Florida Gators had a young lady on last year&#8217;s team who acted like a bully (her name escapes me).  Furthermore, the SEC isn&#8217;t the only conference full of attitude.  North Carolina&#8217;s Erlana Larkins challenges every foul and every traveling violation called against her.  She was awarded a technical in one of UNC&#8217;s regular-season games this year due to her profanity directed toward the referees.  North Carolina players have been displaying bad attitudes for a few years now.  Why doesn&#8217;t Coach Sylvia Hatchell discipline her players for their attitudes?  Abby Waner displays such an arrogant attitude that I&#8217;m surprised that she&#8217;s held in the favorable light that she is.  She was particularly annoying last year, and the only reason she isn&#8217;t as visibly haughty this year is because Duke doesn&#8217;t have the powerhouse team it was thought to have last year.  What about Plumley of Oklahoma?  Hardeman and Cordero of Oklahoma State?</p>
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		<title>By: cluckhead</title>
		<link>http://blog.secwb.com/2008/03/19/shut-up-and-play/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>cluckhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.secwb.com/2008/03/19/shut-up-and-play/#comment-32</guid>
		<description>I am amazed at all of the thoughtful responses (plus a few ridiculous ones) and I wonder what the response would be if the LV had not been the team singled out--or had it just been a general article on the subject.  I expect there are a few LV fans who actually feel the same way about some of their opponents, on those few occasions that they've come up short. They don't have to take much taunting, because they rarely lose, but it must hurt that much more when someone slaps "tradition" across the face (or flips a bird at it).
Normally, that would be an opportunity to empathize...
Are there any LV fans that are not taking this so personally that they can comment on same?
Just wondering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am amazed at all of the thoughtful responses (plus a few ridiculous ones) and I wonder what the response would be if the LV had not been the team singled out&#8211;or had it just been a general article on the subject.  I expect there are a few LV fans who actually feel the same way about some of their opponents, on those few occasions that they&#8217;ve come up short. They don&#8217;t have to take much taunting, because they rarely lose, but it must hurt that much more when someone slaps &#8220;tradition&#8221; across the face (or flips a bird at it).<br />
Normally, that would be an opportunity to empathize&#8230;<br />
Are there any LV fans that are not taking this so personally that they can comment on same?<br />
Just wondering.</p>
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		<title>By: hoopslynn</title>
		<link>http://blog.secwb.com/2008/03/19/shut-up-and-play/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>hoopslynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.secwb.com/2008/03/19/shut-up-and-play/#comment-30</guid>
		<description>Thanks, LeAnne. 
I have thought about this issue for years. I have been a fan of wbb since I moved to Nashville 18 years ago and found that my then-toddler son loved the games at Vandy more than just about anything else. My daughter loved the game too and we enjoyed the family atmosphere at Memorial Gym. There were moments of unsportsmanlike conduct, of course, but they were few. (I never got used to the Maniacs yelling "you suck" during the intros of the Big Games, for instance.)

I remember, years ago, Sheri Sam (a family favorite) beating her chest or some such nonsense and counting the seconds until Coach Foster sat her down. (that would be three seconds and she sat for a full half) We talked about that for the rest of the game. My son was confused and horrified that the best player was sitting for so long, but we got to talk about what was more important: winning or character?

I also remember attending a particularly horrid game at TB where we got spanked. Okay, beaten into the ground and pounded. Pat kept her starters in until nearly the end, even when UT was winning by more than thirty points in a low-scoring game. That stuck with me too. 

But what stuck with me too was how nice the fans at TBA were. It astounded me. And here is why--whenever UT played at Memorial, the fans were HORRID. They were loud, obnoxious and rude. They reflected the players' ridiculous behavior. Same thing at the SEC tournaments. Unless UT was winning by a ton, they were loud, disrespectful and bossy. Every call was unfair, every foul undeserved. I wondered if the TBA fans were the regular fans, day in and day out fans and the ones in Memorial or Sommett were the ones who only got to see their team play once in a while and felt the RIGHT to act ugly. I don't know. Granted, Vandy was getting sent to school so maybe the fans were better because there was no reason to fear a loss.

Here are just a few memories I have of UT:

Michelle Snow dunking and mugging for the camera at the end of a game that was already won. We still wonder if that was just a ploy to help attract Candace. 

Kara Lawson running around the floor, holding her ear to the crowd and screaming. Did she forget she was not at home? (how nice to have Kara turn out to be such a great TV announcer--she has learned to keep her emotions at the acceptable level)

Kristen Clement's over the top celebrations on too many occasions to count.

Bobbitt's ridiculous technical and Pat's equally absurd response. Of course you play like that, Pat; all your players do and that is why they forget to behave when the cameras are there to catch it. It's part of the deal--go to UT and you can act as silly as you want...as long as we win.

It goes on and on.

I think one of the reasons this continues is that Pat lets it. Pure and simple. She lets it happen and she encourages it to happen. She knows that, no matter who is playing a televised game, the announcers are talking about her. Extolling her. Lifting her up as the Greatest Coach Of All Time. It doesn't matter that the game is between LSU and Georgia, the announcers (not you, Kara) only talk about one thing: Pat. Pat's fried chicken and biscuits, Pat's son Tyler, Pat's childhood, Pat's mother, Pat's problems with Geno. Pat is wholly unaccountable and she knows it. Pat screeches at the ref and Pat gets ACTION, not a technical. So her players do the same. 

I was in the gym for the final game in the girls state tourney for Div II in Tennessee. Ensworth, a new high school, had just beaten Webb School, a pretty big upset. Playing for Webb was the tremendously talented UT signee, Glory Johnson. She was all that and a bag of chips, I thought, dreading having to play against her next year. Then I noticed the teams lining up to shake hands. Hmmmm. Guess who would not shake hands? Yup. Maybe she was upset, maybe she was shocked. But, guess what, YOU SHAKE HANDS AT THE END OF A HIGH SCHOOL GAME. 

I remember hoping Pat would take care of that when she came to UT. 

I doubt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, LeAnne.<br />
I have thought about this issue for years. I have been a fan of wbb since I moved to Nashville 18 years ago and found that my then-toddler son loved the games at Vandy more than just about anything else. My daughter loved the game too and we enjoyed the family atmosphere at Memorial Gym. There were moments of unsportsmanlike conduct, of course, but they were few. (I never got used to the Maniacs yelling &#8220;you suck&#8221; during the intros of the Big Games, for instance.)</p>
<p>I remember, years ago, Sheri Sam (a family favorite) beating her chest or some such nonsense and counting the seconds until Coach Foster sat her down. (that would be three seconds and she sat for a full half) We talked about that for the rest of the game. My son was confused and horrified that the best player was sitting for so long, but we got to talk about what was more important: winning or character?</p>
<p>I also remember attending a particularly horrid game at TB where we got spanked. Okay, beaten into the ground and pounded. Pat kept her starters in until nearly the end, even when UT was winning by more than thirty points in a low-scoring game. That stuck with me too. </p>
<p>But what stuck with me too was how nice the fans at TBA were. It astounded me. And here is why&#8211;whenever UT played at Memorial, the fans were HORRID. They were loud, obnoxious and rude. They reflected the players&#8217; ridiculous behavior. Same thing at the SEC tournaments. Unless UT was winning by a ton, they were loud, disrespectful and bossy. Every call was unfair, every foul undeserved. I wondered if the TBA fans were the regular fans, day in and day out fans and the ones in Memorial or Sommett were the ones who only got to see their team play once in a while and felt the RIGHT to act ugly. I don&#8217;t know. Granted, Vandy was getting sent to school so maybe the fans were better because there was no reason to fear a loss.</p>
<p>Here are just a few memories I have of UT:</p>
<p>Michelle Snow dunking and mugging for the camera at the end of a game that was already won. We still wonder if that was just a ploy to help attract Candace. </p>
<p>Kara Lawson running around the floor, holding her ear to the crowd and screaming. Did she forget she was not at home? (how nice to have Kara turn out to be such a great TV announcer&#8211;she has learned to keep her emotions at the acceptable level)</p>
<p>Kristen Clement&#8217;s over the top celebrations on too many occasions to count.</p>
<p>Bobbitt&#8217;s ridiculous technical and Pat&#8217;s equally absurd response. Of course you play like that, Pat; all your players do and that is why they forget to behave when the cameras are there to catch it. It&#8217;s part of the deal&#8211;go to UT and you can act as silly as you want&#8230;as long as we win.</p>
<p>It goes on and on.</p>
<p>I think one of the reasons this continues is that Pat lets it. Pure and simple. She lets it happen and she encourages it to happen. She knows that, no matter who is playing a televised game, the announcers are talking about her. Extolling her. Lifting her up as the Greatest Coach Of All Time. It doesn&#8217;t matter that the game is between LSU and Georgia, the announcers (not you, Kara) only talk about one thing: Pat. Pat&#8217;s fried chicken and biscuits, Pat&#8217;s son Tyler, Pat&#8217;s childhood, Pat&#8217;s mother, Pat&#8217;s problems with Geno. Pat is wholly unaccountable and she knows it. Pat screeches at the ref and Pat gets ACTION, not a technical. So her players do the same. </p>
<p>I was in the gym for the final game in the girls state tourney for Div II in Tennessee. Ensworth, a new high school, had just beaten Webb School, a pretty big upset. Playing for Webb was the tremendously talented UT signee, Glory Johnson. She was all that and a bag of chips, I thought, dreading having to play against her next year. Then I noticed the teams lining up to shake hands. Hmmmm. Guess who would not shake hands? Yup. Maybe she was upset, maybe she was shocked. But, guess what, YOU SHAKE HANDS AT THE END OF A HIGH SCHOOL GAME. </p>
<p>I remember hoping Pat would take care of that when she came to UT. </p>
<p>I doubt it.</p>
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		<title>By: moxiedore</title>
		<link>http://blog.secwb.com/2008/03/19/shut-up-and-play/#comment-29</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat Summit has been quoted as saying she's had to adapt and change as the players have changed over the past 30+ years. I wonder if one of the ways she's "changed" is by tolerating (or even encouraging?) the 'tude that her players exhibit on the court? It certainly isn't only Tennessee, but you're right, when the program that others measure themselves by is leading the way, you'd like them to lead with respect for their opponent. I like your mantra -- shut up and play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat Summit has been quoted as saying she&#8217;s had to adapt and change as the players have changed over the past 30+ years. I wonder if one of the ways she&#8217;s &#8220;changed&#8221; is by tolerating (or even encouraging?) the &#8216;tude that her players exhibit on the court? It certainly isn&#8217;t only Tennessee, but you&#8217;re right, when the program that others measure themselves by is leading the way, you&#8217;d like them to lead with respect for their opponent. I like your mantra &#8212; shut up and play.</p>
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